As part of our obligations for membership in the Baseball Bloggers Alliance, we must submit a vote on each year's Hall of Fame Ballot.
Of course, even if we weren't obligated, we would anyway, because this is fun. Sturgeon General and yours truly each picked six players eligible for induction in 2012. Five of our selections overlapped, leaving a total of seven (out of a possible ten) votes. These were the votes we submitted to the BBA.
In the final BBA voting, only two players--Jeff Bagwell and Barry Larkin--surpassed the 75% threshold, making them the official BBA nominees of 2012. Below, we present our votes, alongside the BBA tallies, with explanations after the jump.
|Player||S. General||J-Doug||RP Blog||BBA|
|Also on the ballot: Dale Murphy, Javy Lopez, Brad Radke, Tim Salmon, Bill Mueller, Phil Nevin, Tony Womack, Jeromy Burnitz, Brian Jordan, Eric Young, Ruben Sierra and Vinny Castilla.|
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 84.25%
Pros: Twelve-time All Star. Posted an exceptional 51.7 wins above replacement (rWAR) during his best ten-year stretch (1990-99).
Cons: If you can think of any, feel free to share in the comments.
J-Doug says: His best ten-year stretch leaves no doubt that he deserves this.
Sturgeon General says: Larkin was almost uniformly recognized as the NL's best shortstop throughout the late 1980s and 1990s. As a counterpart of Cal Ripken, he actually compares favorably to the Iron Man when it comes to rate stats.
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 78.77%
Pros: Four-time All Star. Slugged 449 dingers over fifteen seasons. Dominated the strike-shortened 1994 season with an OPS+ of 213, amassing 300 total bases and winning the MVP. Posted a sizeable 79.9 rWAR over his career, including 65.7 rWAR during his best ten-year stretch (1992-2001).
Cons: Had misfortune to slug in an era when hard-hitting 1Bs came under suspicion for PED use.
J-Doug says: The numbers speak for themselves on this one. He's an all-timer, patently deserving on enshrinement in Cooperstown.
Sturgeon General Says: Has unfairly been lumped in with steroid users. There is no evidence or accusations as of today that he ever used PEDs. He had a normal career arc and was a for a first baseman was surprisingly fleet of foot.
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 60.27%
Pros: Probably the best DH ever. Posted a staggering 50.5 rWAR during his best 10-year stretch (1991-2000). Career OBA of 0.418 is #22 all-time.
Cons: Played DH almost exclusively.
J-Doug says: I'm the kind of guy who thinks a player is Hall worthy if he was the best at his position, regardless of how valuable that position is. Edgar Martinez is that player, but he also deserves it on his own merits.
Sturgeon General says: Edgar's HOF perspectives are coming from the worst of both worlds. Voters ignore designated hitters and his former position of third base is surprisingly one of the most difficult positions to enshrine in the Hall. I do not like the DH, but Edgar's bat performed at Hall of Fame levels and that should be recognized.
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 57.53%
Pros: Compiled 2605 hits and 1330 walks over 23 seasons. Seven consecutive All-Star selections from 1981-87. During best 10-year stretch (1983-92) posted 49.3 rWAR. Led the league in steals from 1981-84, swiping 808 over a career (#5 all time).
Cons: If cocaine is a PED--and it is--then you have to assume Rock Raines' speed was chemically enhanced.
J-Doug says: Great peak. Great career stats. Electrifying speed. I'm pretty sure when voters inducted Andre Dawson they were confusing him with the other Expo.
Sturgeon General: One of the most under-appreciated players of the last few decades. It is a shame that if he had 400 fewer walks and 400 more empty singles he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 44.52%
Pros: Six-time All Star. During his best 10-year stretch posted a superb rWAR of 51.9. Retired as one of the top offensive shortstops of all time.
Cons: Hardly anyone remembers who he is (or was).
J-Doug says: While Trammel's career numbers fall a bit short for me, his 51.9 rWAR during his best ten-year stretch (1981-1990) puts him over the top. That doesn't even count his 5 rWAR from 1980.
Sturgeon General says: Has fallen victim to the inflated numbers of the "Steroids Era." Unfortunately the completion of his career coincided with the rise of Derek Jeter, Nomar Garciaparra, Alex Rodriguez and Miguel Tejada.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 41.1%
Pros: Foreshadowed the dawn of the home run era by socking 49 dingers in his ROY season. Twelve All Star selections in 16 seasons. Led the league in homers four times, including his then-record 70 HR campaign in 1998. Led his league in slugging 4 times. Posted 47 rWAR duing his best 10 year stretch (1990-1999). Hit 583 home runs (#10 on the all-time list).
Cons: Career fell off a cliff rather quickly, posting 0.4 rWAR in 2001 (his final season, only three years after his triumphant 1998). Nagging issues regarding PEDs.
J-Doug says: I'm a small hall guy, and his 63.1 rWAR just doesn't cut it for me. His career just didn't last long enough, and his peak was far too short. I'll never forget #62 sneaking inside the left field foul poll that night, but that memory isn't enough to elevate Big Mac to HOF status.
Sturgeon General says: Even when ignoring the steroids issue, Big Mac's candidacy has issues. He only has 7,660 career plate appearances. No player born since 1924 has made the Hall with that few plate appearances. The next closest person is Kirby Puckett, who had several hundred more PAs and only stopped at that due to career ending glaucoma.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Yea; BBA: 35.62%
Pros: Five-time All Star. Seven Gold Gloves. MVP year was one of the best in the last couple decades. Strong career rWAR at 67.3. 46.9 rWAR duing his best 10-year stretch (1993-2002).
Cons: Colorado's atmosphere almost certainly make his numbers look better than his true talent. Born in Canada (just kidding).
J-Doug says: Larry Walker just doesn't make the cut for me, value-wise. (And for those of you who think I'm being a hypocrite due to my support for Palmeiro--see below--yes, I do actually believe that park-assisted stats are less valuable than PED-assisted stats.)
Sturgeon General says: Was a last minute addition to my ballot. Only after reviewing his numbers and seeing his career rWAR falls right in line with all the players I selected did I add him. However, he was one of the most dynamic players of the '90s.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 33.56%
Pros: Posted 478 saves (#3 all time). Seven time All Star. Finished 2nd in Cy Young voting in 1991.
Cons: Despite playing 18 seasons, led the league in saves only four times. Saves aren't a very good statistic. Lifetime win probability added (WPA) of 23.97 and clutch-adjusted win probability added (WPA/LI) of 13.93 are not all that impressive for a reliever with so much service under his belt.
Sturgeon General says: Retired the all time saves leader but was never really an elite closer. Was a pretty good closer who lasted a long time and just compiled. Was the '80s and '90s equivalent of Francisco Cordero.
J-Doug says: Sturgeon General says it best. While I think voters should actually consider longevity on HOF ballots, Smith never produced enough wins to merit consideration here. He may or may not have been better than Sutter, but he doesn't belong in the Hall either.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 32.19%
Pros: Pitched one of the most memorable postseason games in history.
Cons: Was very good, not great, and certainly not elite, the rest of the time.
J-Doug says: Simply was never one of the best.
Sturgeon General says: Every year he gets a lot of hype, but when you look at the numbers they are surprisingly lacking. Only reason he gets any consideration is because of his epic Game 7 performance in the 1991 World Series. However, despite that legendary outing, he was not a particularly dominating postseason pitcher.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 29.45%
Pros: Six-time All Star. Nine gold gloves. Twice led the league in hits, thrice led in doubles.
Cons: Career was cut short by back injuries. Posted only 39.8 rWAR.
J-Doug says: All apologies to my late stepfather who loved Donnie Baseball, but Mattingly just didn't cut it. Injuries hurt him too early in his career. He was one of my childhood favorites, but he's just not among the best.
Sturgeon General says: The argument in his favor is that his career numbers are similar to Kirby Puckett. However that ignores the fact that Puckett played one of the most difficult defensive positions whereas Mattingly played one of the easiest.
J-Doug: Yea; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 28.77%
Pros: Was consistently among the best in the game during the 1990s, posting 48.1 rWAR (his best 10-year stretch). Four all-star selections vastly underestimate his contributions.
Cons: First big name player to be suspended for testing positive. Probably lied to Congress.
J-Doug says: I have a hard time separating Palmeiro from Walker and McGwire, neither of whom I voted for. His best ten years were marginally better than McGwire's, but Camden Yards may have helped his stats nearly as much as Coors helped Walker's. I'm going with my gut on this one.
Sturgeon General: Cannot support a guy who in my opinion blatantly and intentionally lied to Congress about steroid use.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 28.08%
Pros: Retired a 5-time All Star with 493 dingers. Probably one of the better fielding 1Bs early in his career.
Cons: Paltry value stats, including a 38.5 rWAR during his best 10 year run from 1988-1997. Career 50.5 rWAR just doesn't cut it for Cooperstown.
J-Doug says: There was a time when I thought that the steroid revelations would make McGriff look better relative to his peers. They have not. If there's any such thing as an "empty" slugger, McGriff was it.
Sturgeon General: Have to be honest, I rooted against McGriff hitting 500 career homers. Nothing against the Crime Dog, but I felt at the time that he would be the first 500 home run hitter to fail to make the Hall. Was a very good player for a number of years, but never was elite nor did he have the longevity to make it to Cooperstown.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA 11.64%
Pros: Posted 45.2 rWAR during his best 10-year stretch from 1993-2002. Won a batting title in 1998.
Cons: Posted 2.1 rWAR in his other six seasons. Played 2005 below replacement. Posted a staggeringly low -12 fielding wins over his career.
J-Doug says: After his 30 homer year in 2000, I really thought Bernie was going to Cooperstown. I thought for sure he'd get to 3,000 hits. When he started winning gold gloves (which I now recognize were undeserved) I was even more confident. But then he started sliding fast. Then his career fell apart. With apologies to my ex-girlfriend Barbara, my best friend Dan and myself ten years ago, Bernabie Figueroa Williams does not belong in the Hall.
Sturgeon General says: Another very good player but never a particularly stellar defender (despite the Gold Gloves). Accumulated his entire rWAR value from 1995 to 2002. The remaining seven seasons in his career were around replacement level.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 6.16%
Pros: Two-time MVP.
Cons: Value stats are underwhelming (31.8 rWAR during his best ten season run; 33.5 over his career). Once busted at an airport with large quantities of HGH.
J-Doug says: Was there anyone who thought Juan-Gon wasn't a surefire HOF inductee after he won his second MVP in 1998 (with 50 2B and a 149 OPS+)? In hindsight, this player added few wins for someone with such a meteoric career.
Sturgeon General says: One of the worst stars ever. Image was boosted by gaudy RBI numbers that mysteriously vanished once he left Texas. Did not deserve his MVPs.
J-Doug: Nay; Sturgeon General: Nay; BBA: 0%
Sturgeon General says: As a Phillies fan I've always had a soft spot for Mulholland. Terry was often miscast as the ace of their staff during the early '90s and also threw a no-hitter with the club. Despite an elite pickoff move and good control, Mulholland is not even remotely close to making the Hall.
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